After having read both Hobbes and Locke, whose ideas do you identify with more? What aspects of their ideas did you like and which do you disagree with?
In my opinion most modern and developed nations would associate more with Locke and his ideals. Locke was a huge proponent of a constitutionalist democracy; He preached that all people were born with the rights to life, liberty, and the ownership of property. He also believed in the general good nature of man and that we could be intelligent and learn from our past mistakes, and we could be trusted to govern ourselves to make those right decisions. He also was very dedicated to a limited governmental power. He felt that the power of the governmental should have barriers that prevent it from becoming corrupt and harmful. Its true purpose was to protect the rights and liberty of man, and we the people should have the ability to rebel and overthrow against a just governor that has become corrupt and abusive.
I identify myself more with Locke because he views people in a different light then Hobbes. He has more positive things to say about humanity. He also believes in democracy. I don't believe in one person making the ultimate decisions. Not having a voice or opinion about the decisions that are made would be very difficult. I disagreed with Hobbes in the fact that you give up all your rights and put all your faith on one leader. I agree with Locke in that society comes before the government, what do the people want and need? How can the government help its people?
I identify more with Locke who believed Man is by nature a social animal where as Hobbes felt that society could not exist without the power of the state. Locke believed humans had an innate sense of right or wrong while Hobbes felt our moral compass was very limited. Locke believed that peace is the natural state of man achievable by mutual respect for property and person whereas Hobbs believed such morality must be imposed by the state or religion. Locke believed in principles of democracy and personal freedom, a more libertarian view of the world.
Hobbs saw human beings as essentially machines, with even their thoughts and emotions operating according to physical laws and chains of cause and effect, action and reaction. A narcissistic view in my opinion, but I get it. I disagree with his rejection of scientific method Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another. the backbone of all rigorous scientific inquiry shouldn’t be denied. I share the same beliefs as Locke as far as the development of the mind being at birth a blank slate
I agree with Locke's idea of man leaving a state of nature and joining into a commonwealth for preservation. Even though the ideas are quite dated to say the least, it does seem to be the most fair if you will. Locke seemed to have a general concern for the growth and development of the community even with a governing power. Hobbes on the other hand, seemed very narrow minded and had little faith in the community.
On Hobbes side i agree that people need authority to maintain a good society. With no laws or punishments this world would be complete ciaos . Lockes idea of having a split government is the side i agree with compared to Hobbes favoring a monarchy. One thing about Locke I do not agree with is ignoring laws while our country is in war, i feel that is far too dangerous.
I think that several of Locke's are correct and applicable to modern day society. Locke states that in order for society to function properly under the rule of the government, all men must be treated as equals and there must be consent from the majority of citizens regarding the development of its rules an regulations. Both Locke and Hobbes agreed that without a structured government, society would revert back to the natural tendencies of self preservation and individual gain. According to Hobbes, this leads to war and a deficiency in human morality. I agree that we need social rules and regulations to protect the commonwealth population and allow societal progress. I do not agree that in order to be a part of society, we must surrender all individual rights . I am a huge advocate of working towards the common good of society, but I do not believe that you must give up any individual rights in order to do so.
I relate more to the writings of Locke. His beliefs are still considerably represented today in our government and in our society. Hobbes writes of man as though he is motivated by common interests and while I agree with it, I do not think man is that simple. Their is far more complex, emotional, and individual circumstances that influence humans than just speaking of all of man being one in the same.
I relate more to Locke because he has ideas that are mainly what we use today. In Hobbes case, people trying to change their government is okay, but it would take so much to try and change something.
I definitely agree way more with Locke then with Hobbes. Hobbes is definitely way too up tight and lets himself get told of what to do, unlike Locke. Locke was more of free ruled, less up tight on how the people were ruled. Hobbes simply has a terrible perspective on people, we are all different. Just because some people go crazy and kill others, or commit any other horrible things does not mean we all will. Locke at least gives us the benefit of the doubt.
I agree more with Locke than with Hobbes. Locke believes in life , liberty and property. he also believes that if the government is not for the people, the people can change the government to make it better for them. This is much like it is today.
I will have to agree with John Locke because I believe that government is important for everyone to have, although it may not be for all the same reasons as Locke believed. I do think that government keeps things in order, but laws can still be broken. I agree with his aspect that people are reasonable and cooperative. So I have to say that I could live under Locke's views.
In my opinion most modern and developed nations would associate more with Locke and his ideals. Locke was a huge proponent of a constitutionalist democracy; He preached that all people were born with the rights to life, liberty, and the ownership of property. He also believed in the general good nature of man and that we could be intelligent and learn from our past mistakes, and we could be trusted to govern ourselves to make those right decisions. He also was very dedicated to a limited governmental power. He felt that the power of the governmental should have barriers that prevent it from becoming corrupt and harmful. Its true purpose was to protect the rights and liberty of man, and we the people should have the ability to rebel and overthrow against a just governor that has become corrupt and abusive.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Locke is much more in line with the democratic ideals upon which the United states was founded.
DeleteI identify myself more with Locke because he views people in a different light then Hobbes. He has more positive things to say about humanity. He also believes in democracy. I don't believe in one person making the ultimate decisions. Not having a voice or opinion about the decisions that are made would be very difficult. I disagreed with Hobbes in the fact that you give up all your rights and put all your faith on one leader. I agree with Locke in that society comes before the government, what do the people want and need? How can the government help its people?
ReplyDeleteI identify more with Locke who believed Man is by nature a social animal where as Hobbes felt that society could not exist without the power of the state. Locke believed humans had an innate sense of right or wrong while Hobbes felt our moral compass was very limited. Locke believed that peace is the natural state of man achievable by mutual respect for property and person whereas Hobbs believed such morality must be imposed by the state or religion. Locke believed in principles of democracy and personal freedom, a more libertarian view of the world.
ReplyDeleteHobbs saw human beings as essentially machines, with even their thoughts and emotions operating according to physical laws and chains of cause and effect, action and reaction. A narcissistic view in my opinion, but I get it. I disagree with his rejection of scientific method Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another. the backbone of all rigorous scientific inquiry shouldn’t be denied. I share the same beliefs as Locke as far as the development of the mind being at birth a blank slate
ReplyDeleteI agree with Locke's idea of man leaving a state of nature and joining into a commonwealth for preservation. Even though the ideas are quite dated to say the least, it does seem to be the most fair if you will. Locke seemed to have a general concern for the growth and development of the community even with a governing power. Hobbes on the other hand, seemed very narrow minded and had little faith in the community.
ReplyDeleteOn Hobbes side i agree that people need authority to maintain a good society. With no laws or punishments this world would be complete ciaos . Lockes idea of having a split government is the side i agree with compared to Hobbes favoring a monarchy. One thing about Locke I do not agree with is ignoring laws while our country is in war, i feel that is far too dangerous.
ReplyDeleteI think that several of Locke's are correct and applicable to modern day society. Locke states that in order for society to function properly under the rule of the government, all men must be treated as equals and there must be consent from the majority of citizens regarding the development of its rules an regulations. Both Locke and Hobbes agreed that without a structured government, society would revert back to the natural tendencies of self preservation and individual gain. According to Hobbes, this leads to war and a deficiency in human morality. I agree that we need social rules and regulations to protect the commonwealth population and allow societal progress. I do not agree that in order to be a part of society, we must surrender all individual rights . I am a huge advocate of working towards the common good of society, but I do not believe that you must give up any individual rights in order to do so.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Hobbes that laws need to be placed but I also like some of Locke's ideas too. I guess I would choose Locke over Hobbes.
ReplyDeleteI relate more to the writings of Locke. His beliefs are still considerably represented today in our government and in our society. Hobbes writes of man as though he is motivated by common interests and while I agree with it, I do not think man is that simple. Their is far more complex, emotional, and individual circumstances that influence humans than just speaking of all of man being one in the same.
ReplyDeleteI relate more to Locke because he has ideas that are mainly what we use today. In Hobbes case, people trying to change their government is okay, but it would take so much to try and change something.
ReplyDeleteI definitely agree way more with Locke then with Hobbes. Hobbes is definitely way too up tight and lets himself get told of what to do, unlike Locke. Locke was more of free ruled, less up tight on how the people were ruled. Hobbes simply has a terrible perspective on people, we are all different. Just because some people go crazy and kill others, or commit any other horrible things does not mean we all will. Locke at least gives us the benefit of the doubt.
ReplyDeleteI agree more with Locke than with Hobbes. Locke believes in life , liberty and property. he also believes that if the government is not for the people, the people can change the government to make it better for them. This is much like it is today.
ReplyDeleteI will have to agree with John Locke because I believe that government is important for everyone to have, although it may not be for all the same reasons as Locke believed. I do think that government keeps things in order, but laws can still be broken. I agree with his aspect that people are reasonable and cooperative. So I have to say that I could live under Locke's views.
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